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  • marcus
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    • Jul 2008
    • 9215

    Originally posted by Dr. Michael Beer View Post
    ... and what about if wife dies?

    PP31/2013

    Pasal 160
    (1) Dalam hal suami atau istri warga negara Indonesia meninggal dunia, Izin Tinggal terbatas atau Izin Tinggal Tetap Orang Asing yang diperoleh karena perkawinan campuran tetap berlaku.

    (2) Orang Asing sebagaimana dimaksud pada ayat (1) yang suami atau istrinya warga negara Indonesia meninggal dunia harus memiliki Penjamin berkewarganegaraan Indonesia.

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    • ringtail
      Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 10

      [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]Hi all, salam kenal. First of all THANK YOU to @atlantis and everyone else who've contributed to this topic. Your shared experiences have helped me to go through with my husband's KITAS application, which we finally got this week! [/FONT][/COLOR]

      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#232323]Now, I'd like to give back by sharing our experience / give an update of what the new procedure is like in 2015. [/COLOR]Please note: We did it at Kanim Waru Surabaya, so the information I'm giving here may only apply in that specific office.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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      3. The sponsor "buys" the needed forms (IDR 10K to IDR 25K) and fills a written demand. A "Riwayat Hidup" of the foreigner, a bank statement showing that the couple has enough funds to live 1 full year in Indonesia should be joined.
      [/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]4. On top of the above, the sponsor should submit:[/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]- Akte Perwakinan asli (kristen, Hindhu, Buddhist) or Buku Nikah asli (islam) or Surat Tanda Bukti Lapor Perkawinan asli (overseas wed)[/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]- Wife's KTP.[/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]- Husband's Passport.[/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]Update step #3. The forms were free and should be free. It has the word "CUMA-CUMA / FREE" clearly written on the red folder that they gave us along with the (2) forms: 1) Formulir Perpanjangan atau Konversi Ijin Kunjungan (Form of Extension or Conversion of Visit Permit) and 2) FPOA (Formulir Pendaftaran Orang Asing – All WNA who lives or has been in Indonesia for more than 90 days must register) — the peculiar thing about the second form was that it was only written in Bahasa Indonesia.[/FONT][/COLOR]

      [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]A Riwayat Hidup and bank statement weren't required. Instead they asked us to buy copies (Rp 1.000 each) of the Sponsor's (2) letter templates at the Kanim cooperation at the back: 1) Surat Permohonan (Request letter) and 2) Surat Permintaan dan Jaminan (Guarantee letter) signed on Rp 6.000 meterai. It's great that we didn't have to worry about the wordings for these letters, we just needed to fill them out with our basic info. The request is for "Alih Status Ijin Kunjungan ke KITAS" for the reason of "Penyatuan keluarga / ikut istri".[/FONT][/COLOR]

      [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]Update step #4. All in all, here are the requested documents at Kanim:[/FONT][/COLOR]
      1. [COLOR=#000000]Original passport[/COLOR]
      2. [COLOR=#000000]Copy of visa entry stamp[/COLOR]
      3. [COLOR=#000000]Domicile letter from Kelurahan (you'll need to go through your head of RT, RW and Lurah to obtain this) — Important note: Make sure you make a couple of copies before you submitted the original. It could be useful later to obtain SKTT from Capil without having to go through RT-RW-Lurah again.[/COLOR]
      4. [COLOR=#000000]Copy of Sponsor's KTP[/COLOR]
      5. [COLOR=#000000]Copy of Sponsor's KK[/COLOR]
      6. [COLOR=#000000]Sponsor's Surat Permohonan[/COLOR]
      7. [COLOR=#000000]Sponsor's Surat Permintaan dan Jaminan + Rp 6000 meterai[/COLOR]
      8. [COLOR=#000000]Copy of marriage certificate (ours was overseas)[/COLOR]
      9. [COLOR=#000000]Copy of Surat Pelaporan Perkawinan Luar Negeri (overseas marriage report letter) from Capil[/COLOR]
      10. [COLOR=#000000]Passport size photo with *red background* — Not sure how strict they are with this but we didn't want to waste time to find out so we came prepared.[/COLOR]


      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]
      6. Imigrasi will then issue a document to be brought to the Kantor Wilayah. It is a letter which says that after reviewing all the documents, he has no opposition for the conversion of the immigration status. Allow a couple of days to get the letter signed by the KaKanIm.
      [/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]10. In fact, the DitJen will issue 3 copies, 1 for you, 1 for the KanIm, 1 for the KanWil). You need to bring it back victoriously to the KanWil which will give you a letter autorising the KanIm to start to process a KITAS. [/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]11. At that point, the foreign husband will have to submit a few pics and get fingerprinted[/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]12. Then comes the time to pay the fee for the KITAS: IDR 700K for a 1 year KITAS and IDR 55.000 for the biometrik pics and fingerprint[/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]Update step #12. Actually we were asked to PAY FIRST before they release the letter that we should brought to Kanwil. So payment is now done at step #6. And the fees are now: Rp 800.000 for 1 year KITAS, Rp 1.000.000 for 1 year MERP (it was automatically included though we didn't request for it) and Rp 55.000 for biometrik.[/FONT][/COLOR]

      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]
      15. 2/3 days after or so, a POA Book will be remitted (no fees for it).
      [/FONT][/COLOR]

      [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]No more POA book or buku biru. In fact I was surprised to see that they crossed out "Job", "Address" and "Sponsor" on my husband's KITAS. When I asked about it they said it's how the new system is now. On top of that when I read through the decision letter (Surat Keputusan) from Dirjen there are no mentioning of reporting back to Kanim for any changes in family, address or job, etc.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]
      [/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]
      16. At that point, it is advisable to ask for an "Izin Masuk Kembali" to be stamped in the husband passport. Without it, the KITAS holder "looses" his KITAS if he goes out of Indonesia. Better then to have it if you don't want to do it all over again.
      [/FONT][/COLOR]

      [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]The new KITAS now comes automatically with 1 year MERP (Rp 1mill).[/FONT][/COLOR]

      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]
      17. You still need to process a SKLD (Surat Keterengan Lapor Diri) which is a trendy little plastic card with the husband's pic. There is now, as per June 2010, a legal fee for it: IDR 100.000. You have to go to your main Police Resort to get it sorted. You will also have to get a STM (Surat Tanda Melapor - no fee) stating your address. The person who gives shelter to the foreigner should be the one reporting and signing it.
      [/FONT][/COLOR]

      [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]No more SKLD. But you still have to obtain STM from the police (It is also one of the requirement to obtain SKTT from Capil later). We requested the STM at Polda Jatim and it is now the trendy little plastic card with the husband's pic. You can read more about our experience getting the STM here: [COLOR=#021EAA]http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/showthread.php/41580-Announcement-from-Mabes-Polri-No-more-SKLD-needed/page10[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]

      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]
      18. The foreigner has to go to his Kantor Lurah to get a Surat keterengan domisili stating his formal address in Indonesia and he should bring this letter to his Catatan Sipil to get a SKTT...
      [/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana]Be careful you have 14 days to do so after the date of issuance of the KITAS (Pasal 20, undang undang 23 tahun 2006 tentang Administrasi Kependudukan) to register. Failure to do so in time would expose you to a fine of a maximum of IDR 2.000K (Pasal 89, undang undang 23 tahun 2006 tentang Administrasi Kependudukan).[/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]
      [/FONT][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]The cost for SKTT at Capil Surabaya was free but the fine was Rp 500.000 based on Perda Kota Surabaya nomor 14 tahun 2014 pasal 89. You can read more about our experience getting the SKTT here: [COLOR=#021EAA]http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/showthread.php/42530-SKTT-(-Surat-Keterangan-Tempat-Tinggal-)-for-KITAS-holder/page3[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]

      [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]I think that's about it. All the best!!![/FONT][/COLOR]
      Last edited by ringtail; 03-07-15, 11:06.

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      • jstar
        Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 6054

        Good description. And congrats.

        I realize the STM is very but it really is not necessary anymore (it could return in the future though).

        And I understand people get so fed up (see also the thread you refer to) that they just give up and apply for it anyway to get it over with. Let's call it sponsoring the local law enforcement.

        Honestly, all these previous years, I have never ever gotten the STM. First of all, being here (on visa) it legally wasn't my responsibility but my host(s). Secondly, the Jakarta Imigrasi and CatSip never requested this document for any registration and permits. Thirdly, a couple of years ago before the law change, we already couldn't get it anymore for our visitors at the police station; they sent us away with the remark: "We don't do that anymore".
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        • ringtail
          Member
          • Jul 2015
          • 10

          Thanks @jstar. The bureaucracy here is so confusing I am fed up myself. Different cities different rules, different offices (of the same division) different rules, different officers IN THE SAME OFFICE different rules!

          I was just expecting something like an A4 piece of paper for the STM FOC instead we got a plastic card with Surat Tanda Melapor (Letter of Police Notification) written on it (could it be just a different version of SKLD?) and 400k charge!

          We're just glad it's all over and now we can finally enjoy our lives here… till next year…

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          • shanty_84
            Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 0

            Originally posted by ringtail View Post
            [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]Hi all, salam kenal. First of all THANK YOU to @atlantis and everyone else who've contributed to this topic. Your shared experiences have helped me to go through with my husband's KITAS application, which we finally got this week! [/FONT][/COLOR]

            [COLOR=#323333][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#232323]Now, I'd like to give back by sharing our experience / give an update of what the new procedure is like in 2015. [/COLOR]Please note: We did it at Kanim Waru Surabaya, so the information I'm giving here may only apply in that specific office.[/FONT][/COLOR]



            [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]Update step #3. The forms were free and should be free. It has the word "CUMA-CUMA / FREE" clearly written on the red folder that they gave us along with the (2) forms: 1) Formulir Perpanjangan atau Konversi Ijin Kunjungan (Form of Extension or Conversion of Visit Permit) and 2) FPOA (Formulir Pendaftaran Orang Asing – All WNA who lives or has been in Indonesia for more than 90 days must register) — the peculiar thing about the second form was that it was only written in Bahasa Indonesia.[/FONT][/COLOR]

            [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]A Riwayat Hidup and bank statement weren't required. Instead they asked us to buy copies (Rp 1.000 each) of the Sponsor's (2) letter templates at the Kanim cooperation at the back: 1) Surat Permohonan (Request letter) and 2) Surat Permintaan dan Jaminan (Guarantee letter) signed on Rp 6.000 meterai. It's great that we didn't have to worry about the wordings for these letters, we just needed to fill them out with our basic info. The request is for "Alih Status Ijin Kunjungan ke KITAS" for the reason of "Penyatuan keluarga / ikut istri".[/FONT][/COLOR]

            [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]Update step #4. All in all, here are the requested documents at Kanim:[/FONT][/COLOR]
            1. [COLOR=#000000]Original passport[/COLOR]
            2. [COLOR=#000000]Copy of visa entry stamp[/COLOR]
            3. [COLOR=#000000]Domicile letter from Kelurahan (you'll need to go through your head of RT, RW and Lurah to obtain this) — Important note: Make sure you make a couple of copies before you submitted the original. It could be useful later to obtain SKTT from Capil without having to go through RT-RW-Lurah again.[/COLOR]
            4. [COLOR=#000000]Copy of Sponsor's KTP[/COLOR]
            5. [COLOR=#000000]Copy of Sponsor's KK[/COLOR]
            6. [COLOR=#000000]Sponsor's Surat Permohonan[/COLOR]
            7. [COLOR=#000000]Sponsor's Surat Permintaan dan Jaminan + Rp 6000 meterai[/COLOR]
            8. [COLOR=#000000]Copy of marriage certificate (ours was overseas)[/COLOR]
            9. [COLOR=#000000]Copy of Surat Pelaporan Perkawinan Luar Negeri (overseas marriage report letter) from Capil[/COLOR]
            10. [COLOR=#000000]Passport size photo with *red background* — Not sure how strict they are with this but we didn't want to waste time to find out so we came prepared.[/COLOR]




            [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]Update step #12. Actually we were asked to PAY FIRST before they release the letter that we should brought to Kanwil. So payment is now done at step #6. And the fees are now: Rp 800.000 for 1 year KITAS, Rp 1.000.000 for 1 year MERP (it was automatically included though we didn't request for it) and Rp 55.000 for biometrik.[/FONT][/COLOR]



            [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]No more POA book or buku biru. In fact I was surprised to see that they crossed out "Job", "Address" and "Sponsor" on my husband's KITAS. When I asked about it they said it's how the new system is now. On top of that when I read through the decision letter (Surat Keputusan) from Dirjen there are no mentioning of reporting back to Kanim for any changes in family, address or job, etc.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]
            [/FONT][/COLOR]


            [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]The new KITAS now comes automatically with 1 year MERP (Rp 1mill).[/FONT][/COLOR]



            [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]No more SKLD. But you still have to obtain STM from the police (It is also one of the requirement to obtain SKTT from Capil later). We requested the STM at Polda Jatim and it is now the trendy little plastic card with the husband's pic. You can read more about our experience getting the STM here: [COLOR=#021EAA]http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/showthread.php/41580-Announcement-from-Mabes-Polri-No-more-SKLD-needed/page10[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]

            [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]
            [/FONT][/COLOR]
            [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]The cost for SKTT at Capil Surabaya was free but the fine was Rp 500.000 based on Perda Kota Surabaya nomor 14 tahun 2014 pasal 89. You can read more about our experience getting the SKTT here: [COLOR=#021EAA]http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/showthread.php/42530-SKTT-(-Surat-Keterangan-Tempat-Tinggal-)-for-KITAS-holder/page3[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]

            [COLOR=#232323][FONT=Verdana]I think that's about it. All the best!!![/FONT][/COLOR]
            thanks ringtail, thats a very good description.

            but I'm a bit confused, after the Imigrasi issues a document for the Kanwil, will that be done by the Imigrasi ? so we just need to wait KITAS has been approved ?

            or we still have to do the trip going to the Kanwil to submit the documents, then after a couple of days Kanwil will provide another letter that we have to bring and submit to DitJen before they issue the 3 copies, for us to bring it to Kanwil, then to Kanim so Kanim can start the process ?

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            • PhilippeD
              Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 4550

              It's just strange they ask to paid before send to kanwil as the kitas is not still accepted by jakarta.

              I have start a change a sponsor + renewal a month before ramadan, I was not asked to paid. Before send to kanwil... And not still have news from jakarta!
              La motivation vient en se motivant ~ Motivation come by self-motivation

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              • ringtail
                Member
                • Jul 2015
                • 10

                Originally posted by shanty_84 View Post
                thanks ringtail, thats a very good description.

                but I'm a bit confused, after the Imigrasi issues a document for the Kanwil, will that be done by the Imigrasi ? so we just need to wait KITAS has been approved ?

                or we still have to do the trip going to the Kanwil to submit the documents, then after a couple of days Kanwil will provide another letter that we have to bring and submit to DitJen before they issue the 3 copies, for us to bring it to Kanwil, then to Kanim so Kanim can start the process ?
                Hi Shanty,

                No. Unfortunately we still have to do the trips to Kanwil, Ditjen and back to Kanim again as you've described.

                The only change was (at least for us in Sby) we had to pay first at Kanim before they released the document for Kanwil.

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                • johntap
                  Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 2439

                  This meeting next week might be very informative. KPC Melati - all day meeting, 7th October.

                  Isu Isu terkait izin tinggal orang asing di Indonesia yang diselenggarakan oleh Kemen Hukum dan HAM RI Direktorat Jenderal Imigrasi.

                  at Jl Rasuna Said office
                  Last edited by johntap; 04-10-15, 09:05.

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                  • cynthiag
                    Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 25

                    Can anyone help me about renewing KITAS? Is it the same procedure as obtaining KITAS for the first time?

                    Thanks!

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                    • marcus
                      Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 9215

                      Originally posted by cynthiag View Post
                      Can anyone help me about renewing KITAS? Is it the same procedure as obtaining KITAS for the first time?


                      It is similar or the same procedure , sometimes easier as you may not need to deal with the Jakarta's Directorate General .

                      Just go to your city's Kantor Imigrasi and ask for "Perpanjangan KITAS" (KITAS Extension) . The required documents are mostly the same as those required for the first KITAS .

                      According to the Regulation , you can request the extension up to 3 months until the day before the KITAS expires , but better do it around one month before expiration .

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                      • cynthiag
                        Member
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 25

                        Hey marcus thanks for helping. Does that mean I have to go to to Kanwil again?

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                        • marcus
                          Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 9215

                          When I did it some 4 years ago , yes (the first and second extensions were approved by Kantor Imigrasi + Kantor Wilayah) . Now I don't know if the procedure is still the same (I guess it is still the same as I didn't see anybody in the Forum writing about changes in this subject) .

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                          • TheGodFather
                            Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 118

                            Originally posted by marcus View Post
                            He needs to present a new Indonesian sponsor to Kantor Imigrasi :
                            - if the marriage had more than 10 years , he has to do that without a time limit ,
                            - if the marriage had less than 10 years , he has 60 days to do that , from the date of the divorce certificate .

                            For marriage with less than 10 years , I think he cannot extend the KITAP .
                            What if one has already got the lifetime KITAp which means after having paid the 10 million rupiah? The I assume it would still be a kitap regardless the years of marriage?

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                            • marcus
                              Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 9215

                              Originally posted by TheGodFather View Post
                              What if one has already got the lifetime KITAP which means after having paid the 10 million rupiah? Then I assume it would still keep a kitap regardless the years of marriage?

                              Yes I also think that one can continue with the unlimited KITAP regardless of how long was the marriage , if PP31/2013 is considered .

                              The problem is that PP31/2013 is allowing what the UU6/2011 does not allow , so Immigration may revise the PP later (to cancel this condition for marriage with less than 10 years) , or make it difficult to change the sponsor , as from item (5) of Article 63 of UU6/2011 I understand that there is no requirement to be a sponsor for the case of more than 10 years' marriage , but in the case of less than 10 years' marriage Immigration can require many conditions to be the sponsor .


                              ---------------------------------------------------


                              UU no.6 , year 2011

                              Pasal 63
                              (1) Orang Asing tertentu yang berada di Wilayah Indonesia wajib memiliki Penjamin yang menjamin keberadaannya.
                              (2) Penjamin bertanggung jawab atas keberadaan dan kegiatan Orang Asing yang dijamin selama tinggal di Wilayah Indonesia serta berkewajiban melaporkan setiap perubahan status sipil, status Keimigrasian, dan perubahan alamat.
                              (3) Penjamin wajib membayar biaya yang timbul untuk memulangkan atau mengeluarkan Orang Asing yang dijaminnya dari Wilayah Indonesia apabila Orang Asing yang bersangkutan:
                              a. telah habis masa berlaku Izin Tinggalnya; dan/atau
                              b. dikenai Tindakan Administratif Keimigrasian berupa Deportasi.
                              (4) Ketentuan mengenai penjaminan tidak berlaku bagi Orang Asing yang kawin secara sah dengan warga negara Indonesia.
                              (5) Ketentuan sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 62 ayat (2) huruf g (divorce after 10 years) tidak berlaku dalam hal pemegang Izin Tinggal Tetap tersebut putus hubungan perkawinannya dengan warga negara Indonesia memperoleh penjaminan yang menjamin keberadaannya sebagaimana dimaksud pada ayat (1).


                              (not an official translation)
                              [FONT=Georgia]Article 63[/FONT]
                              [FONT=Georgia](1) Foreigners residing in Indonesia must have a sponsor that guarantees its existence.[/FONT]

                              [FONT=Georgia](2) the Guarantor is responsible for the existence and activities of the foreigner and must report any change in civil status, immigration status, and address changes.[/FONT]

                              [FONT=Georgia](3) the Guarantor shall pay the costs incurred to repatriate or release the foreigner's responsibility when :[/FONT]

                              [FONT=Georgia]a. expiration of the valid residence permit and / or[/FONT]
                              [FONT=Georgia]b. the foreigner is subjected to Administrative Measures in Deportation.[/FONT]

                              (4) The above is not applicable to foreigners married with Indonesians
                              (5) The above is not applicable to foreigners who divorced their Indonesian spouses in marriages of more than 10 years old .

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                              • cynthiag
                                Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 25

                                Does anybody extend their kitas recently? I went to immigration Kelapa Gading last week and they asked (again) for the Surat Domisili from Kelurahan / PM1.

                                Today I got the letter and it's different than the one I got last year which explained my details and domicile. This time it states my husband's details and occupation as "Karyawan". I told them that that's not supposed to be Karyawan because he is not working. They insist that it cannot be left blank and Immigration only care about the keterangan that he lives in this area.

                                Anybody experienced this before? Just wanna make sure that it's alright. Thanks

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