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  • sul1995
    Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 532

    I'm on company sponsored KITAP, been married to an Indonesian woman more than 10 years now, and thinking of converting to wife sponsored KITAP. However, will my IMTA process later on become easier or more complicated (after the conversion)??? Anyone with similar experience?

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    • bad_azz
      Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 7175

      I have a list of the questions asked in my interview for the conversion from SosBud to KITAS...
      I hope they prove useful for anyone else who has to go for interview...

      1: Apakah saudara dalam keadaan sehat jasmani dan rohani.
      2: Apakah saudara dapat berbicara bahasa indonesia?
      3: Apakah saudara mengerti , mengapa diperiksa dan diminta keterangan saat ini?
      4: Bersedia saudara diperiksa hari ini?
      5: Apaka saudara bersedia memberikan keterangan yang benar dan dapat dipertanggung jawabkan?
      6: Apakah saudara sudah pernah dikenakan tindakan administratif keimigrasian atau tersangkut perkara pidana?
      7: Jelaskan identitas saudara secara singkat
      8: Apa izin tinggal yang saudara miliki saat ini?
      9: Apakah alasan saudara mengajukan konversi izin tinggal Kunjungan ke Izin Tinggal Terbatas?
      10: Dapatkah Saudara menceritakan riwayat hidup saudara di Indonesia secara singkat?
      11: Siapakah yang akan menjadi sponsor saudara apabila permohonan konversi saudara dikabulkan?
      12: Dapatkah Saudara menjelaskan Identitas Isteri Saudara secara singkat?
      13: Jelaskan awal mula saudara bertemu dengan *name of spouse*?
      14: Kapan dan dimanakah saudara melakukan pernikahan dengan *name of spouse*?
      15: Apakah saudara melakukan pernikahan tersebut dengan hukum dan ketentuan yang berlaku di *place of marriage*?
      16: Mengapakah Saudara melaksanakan pernikahan di *place of marriage* ?
      17: Apakah Saudara mempunyai keahlian khusus di bidang pekerjaan tertentu dan Apakah kegiatan Saudara selama berada di Indonesia?
      18: Berdasarkan keterangan Saudara pada poin (16), Apakah saudara telah mendaftarkan tersebut Permerintah indonesia dan apakah pernikahan saudara tersebut dianggap sah?
      19: Darimanakah penghasilan yang saudara dapatkan untuk kehidupan saudara dan keluarga saudara?
      20: Apakah Saudara mempunyai keahlian khusus di bidang pekerjaan tertentu dan Apakah kegiatan Saudara selama berada di Indonesia?
      21: Apakah Saudara mempunyai rencana untuk memiliki keturunan di Indonesia bersama *name of spouse*?
      22: Apakah rencana saudara kedepan di Indonesia?
      23: Apakah ada hal-hal yang ingin saudara sampaikan sehubungan dengan pemeriksaan ini?
      24: Bersediakah saudara disumpah bilamana diperlukan sehubungan dengan keterangan / jawaban yang saudara berikan dan apakah saudara mendapat tekanan serta dipengaruhi oleh pemeriksa maupun oleh orang lain dalam pemeriksaan ini?

      Gosh that took a lot of typing out! (Google translate does a reasonable, but by no means wonderful, job on the translation of these questions... good enough to get the gist of what is being /going to be asked of you).

      Anyway, as far as I was able to determine these are pre-set questions that they take from some do-it-by-numbers-KITAS process program in the computer. So the questions should be fairly consistent.
      Last edited by bad_azz; 13-02-13, 17:58. Reason: typo
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      • bad_azz
        Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 7175

        Originally posted by sul1995 View Post
        I'm on company sponsored KITAP, been married to an Indonesian woman more than 10 years now, and thinking of converting to wife sponsored KITAP. However, will my IMTA process later on become easier or more complicated (after the conversion)??? Anyone with similar experience?
        Sol... KITAP has its own thread- you might get more answers in there... try the forum search facility x
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        • Dr. Michael Beer
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 128

          Originally posted by john madden View Post
          Dr Michael Beer - have you checked recently with KanIm or KanWil in Bali? Some posters incl those in Bali have been pleasantly surprised recrntly to find that the actions are occurring without your intervention.
          Sorry, I do not understand what you mean with "...without your intervention"?

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          • john madden
            Banned
            • Sep 2008
            • 4857

            Dr Michael Beer - see posts #722 and #723 above. I can't find it but I also thought that user Takri posted about such an experience in Bali.

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            • Takri
              Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 195

              Originally posted by john madden View Post
              Dr Michael Beer - see posts #722 and #723 above. I can't find it but I also thought that user Takri posted about such an experience in Bali.
              1) For my SosBud to KITAS, I picked up the documents at KanWil to send them to Jakarta with TIKI (it could have been done by KanWil itself but it is faster to do it yourself), then I didn't have anything to do until paying for my KITAS at KanIm (which means the "OK" letter from Jakarta was sent to KanWil and KanIm).

              2) For my KITAS 1 to KITAS 2 (which only involves KanIm and KanWil, not Jakarta), I didn't even have to bring my documents from KanIm to KanWil. There was a said new regulation and the KanIm-KanWil-KanIm trip of my documents was handled by them. So I went to KanIm first to ask for a KITAS extension, then came back for an interview with my wife, and then came back to pay with nothing in between.

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              • Takri
                Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 195

                Originally posted by bad_azz View Post
                I have a list of the questions asked in my interview for the conversion from SosBud to KITAS...
                I hope they prove useful for anyone else who has to go for interview...

                1: Apakah saudara dalam keadaan sehat jasmani dan rohani.
                2: Apakah saudara dapat berbicara bahasa indonesia?
                3: Apakah saudara mengerti , mengapa diperiksa dan diminta keterangan saat ini?
                4: Bersedia saudara diperiksa hari ini?
                5: Apaka saudara bersedia memberikan keterangan yang benar dan dapat dipertanggung jawabkan?
                6: Apakah saudara sudah pernah dikenakan tindakan administratif keimigrasian atau tersangkut perkara pidana?
                7: Jelaskan identitas saudara secara singkat
                8: Apa izin tinggal yang saudara miliki saat ini?
                9: Apakah alasan saudara mengajukan konversi izin tinggal Kunjungan ke Izin Tinggal Terbatas?
                10: Dapatkah Saudara menceritakan riwayat hidup saudara di Indonesia secara singkat?
                11: Siapakah yang akan menjadi sponsor saudara apabila permohonan konversi saudara dikabulkan?
                12: Dapatkah Saudara menjelaskan Identitas Isteri Saudara secara singkat?
                13: Jelaskan awal mula saudara bertemu dengan *name of spouse*?
                14: Kapan dan dimanakah saudara melakukan pernikahan dengan *name of spouse*?
                15: Apakah saudara melakukan pernikahan tersebut dengan hukum dan ketentuan yang berlaku di *place of marriage*?
                16: Mengapakah Saudara melaksanakan pernikahan di *place of marriage* ?
                17: Apakah Saudara mempunyai keahlian khusus di bidang pekerjaan tertentu dan Apakah kegiatan Saudara selama berada di Indonesia?
                18: Berdasarkan keterangan Saudara pada poin (16), Apakah saudara telah mendaftarkan tersebut Permerintah indonesia dan apakah pernikahan saudara tersebut dianggap sah?
                19: Darimanakah penghasilan yang saudara dapatkan untuk kehidupan saudara dan keluarga saudara?
                20: Apakah Saudara mempunyai keahlian khusus di bidang pekerjaan tertentu dan Apakah kegiatan Saudara selama berada di Indonesia?
                21: Apakah Saudara mempunyai rencana untuk memiliki keturunan di Indonesia bersama *name of spouse*?
                22: Apakah rencana saudara kedepan di Indonesia?
                23: Apakah ada hal-hal yang ingin saudara sampaikan sehubungan dengan pemeriksaan ini?
                24: Bersediakah saudara disumpah bilamana diperlukan sehubungan dengan keterangan / jawaban yang saudara berikan dan apakah saudara mendapat tekanan serta dipengaruhi oleh pemeriksa maupun oleh orang lain dalam pemeriksaan ini?

                Gosh that took a lot of typing out! (Google translate does a reasonable, but by no means wonderful, job on the translation of these questions... good enough to get the gist of what is being /going to be asked of you).

                Anyway, as far as I was able to determine these are pre-set questions that they take from some do-it-by-numbers-KITAS process program in the computer. So the questions should be fairly consistent.
                Wow, what an interview!

                In my case (KanIm Denpasar, Bali), it was like this:

                1) For how long have you been married?
                2) How would you define your marriage (harmonious, so-so, etc...) ?
                3) Is this your real address? So we could come at this address anytime and see you there right?
                4) Do you work here?

                And that was it.

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                • ReveurGAM
                  Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 721

                  Originally posted by sul1995 View Post
                  I'm on company sponsored KITAP, been married to an Indonesian woman more than 10 years now, and thinking of converting to wife sponsored KITAP. However, will my IMTA process later on become easier or more complicated (after the conversion)??? Anyone with similar experience?
                  As per bad_azz's, the correct thread is: Conversion of an ITAS sponsored by an Indonesian spouse in an ITAP. UU 6/2011.
                  I'm not arrogant or a know-it-all - I'm over-eager to help & not very good at writing humbly. Verify my answers!

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                  • sul1995
                    Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 532

                    Originally posted by ReveurGAM View Post
                    Thanks bad_azz & ReveurGAM. But I cannot find the correct thread...I'm not converting ITAS to ITAP, I'm already on ITAP, I'm on ITAP changing sponsor from company to wife. Maybe I should start a new thread? But there may be just a handful of persons similar to my case. Anyway, thanks again.

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                    • bad_azz
                      Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 7175

                      I think new thread would be better even if it contains more specific/specialised knowledge- it will help people in the future to find the information added to it and it will help people to help you if they see the thread title... xx
                      best of luck
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                      • ReveurGAM
                        Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 721

                        First time I've seen anyone in your position. I'd suggest a new thread too. My limited understanding of UU6/2011 tells me you'll probably have a problem trying to do the sponsor conversion, since it requires that you first possess an ITAS sponsored by your wife before moving to an ITAP, but I could be wrong. If no one can tell you, don't bother to ask KanIm - go directly to DirJenIm or KeMenKumHam - as it's probably such an incredibly rare phenomenon that almost no officials will know what to do. This is just my best guess, though, so make a new thread and good luck!

                        Namaste, peace & love,
                        Glenn
                        I'm not arrogant or a know-it-all - I'm over-eager to help & not very good at writing humbly. Verify my answers!

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                        • mariloustique
                          Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 101

                          Hi everyone !
                          Went to Imigrasi last Wednesday, they corrected the mistake in the POA book in no time. Dropped off the forms for the MERP, was told to come back in the afternoon and it'd be ready. Indeed it was. Went to Polda in the meantime, handed in all the docs for the SKLD. I filled a form, they took my finger prints.
                          Will pick up the letters on Monday, as well as the STM. the actual card will be issued in 2 months from now.
                          Will then head for Catatan Sipil to ask for the SKTT.
                          I read in one of Marcus's posts, if I'm not mistaken, that you need to bring a "Surat pengantaran from RT" : what it that ?
                          I also read you need a "surat sponsor SKPPS" dari suami. Does anyone have a template ?
                          And there was also a mention of a "surat permohonan untuk SKPPS" dari suami. Does Catatan Sipil give you that one ?

                          Can anyone tell me if I'm forgetting anything for the SKTT : copy of KITAS, POA book, paspor, STM, marriage certificate, surat keterangan domisili, photos.

                          Regarding our Kartu keluarga : now that I have a KITAS, do I need to ask for my name to appear on it ?

                          Thanks !

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                          • marcus
                            Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 9247

                            Originally posted by mariloustique View Post
                            (a) ... Went to Polda in the meantime, handed in all the docs for the SKLD. I filled a form, they took my finger prints.
                            Will pick up the letters on Monday, as well as the STM. the actual card will be issued in 2 months from now.

                            (b) Will then head for Catatan Sipil to ask for the SKTT.
                            (b1) ... , that you need to bring a "Surat pengantaran from RT" : what it that ?
                            (b2) I also read you need a "surat sponsor SKPPS" dari suami. Does anyone have a template ?
                            (b3) And there was also a mention of a "surat permohonan untuk SKPPS" dari suami. Does Catatan Sipil give you that one ?

                            (b4) Can anyone tell me if I'm forgetting anything for the SKTT : copy of KITAS, POA book, paspor, STM, marriage certificate, surat keterangan domisili, photos.

                            (c) Regarding our Kartu keluarga : now that I have a KITAS, do I need to ask for my name to appear on it ?
                            (a) I got a STM first (at POLSEK , local Police) , then I went to POLDA (province's Police) to request the SKLD . The STM was one of the documents required for the SKLD .

                            (b) I would suggest you to understand the objective and procedures , instead of trying to understand the names of documents . This because each city may have its own name for equivalent type of documents . The objective at Catatan Sipil is to be registered there . In my city , I looked for the "Pendaftaran WNA" (Foreigner's Registering) counter .

                            (b1) So if Catatan Sipil says you need to bring a Surat Pengantar , ask them from which office . In my case Catatan Sipil asked a Surat Keterangan from Kelurahan/Kecamatan , stating my address . So I went to Kantor Kelurahan and they requested a document from Pak RT/RW . I went to Mr. RT and he issued a kind of "form" (in my case , sometimes called Surat Keterangan OR Surat Pengantar) . This "form" need to be signed by Mr. RT and Mr. RW . With that , I went to Kantor Kelurahan , they issued the "Surat Keterangan Serba Guna" (but it can be also "Surat Keterangan Domisili") . This one need to be signed by both Kantor Kelurahan and Kantor Kecamatan .

                            (b2) In my city there is no SKPPS . Anyway , my Catatan Sipil didn't ask for any surat sponsor .

                            (b3) Not in my city .

                            (b4) In my case they don't ask for the POA book , but better bring copies of everything imaginable . As some posters said , sometimes they require some more documents that they forgot to tell .

                            (c) No , not due to the KITAS . What I heard is that your name is included when you register a child in the KK , otherwise , only when you get a KITAP .

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                            • Dr. Michael Beer
                              Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 128

                              Originally posted by Dr. Michael Beer View Post
                              Hi. Do you have the email address of her? Where did you find it? Did you ever try this: www.imigrasi.go.id and then click "Layanan Pengaduan Masyarakat" and fill out the formulir?
                              Please, answer my question. I get nervous. Can anyone tell me what to do. NOBODY picks up the phone at DIJENIM Jakarta. Should I travel from Bali to Jakarta? What if the DIJENIM does not mail to Singaraja, Bali, my KITAP before the KITAS expires? Am I then ILLEGAL in this country? Would be grateful to receive your advice. Thanks a lot.

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                              • mariloustique
                                Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 101

                                Hi Marcus ! Thanks again for your help !
                                I think I understand the procedure - having to register at Catatan Sipil - but I just get confused : when I think I already have all the docs necessary to proceed, I read more posts and get new names for docs, thus end up thinking there are more docs to provide. I'm glad to read that the "Surat Keterangan Serba Guna" is also called "Surat Keterangan Domisili", as I already have that one, I gave a copy of it when I asked for the KITAS !
                                I just wish things were easier and the required docs would have the same name all over the country and wherever you apply you'd need to provide the same docs ! For example, unlike you, I was not asked for the STM when I applied for the SKLD, they said they'd give me that letter when I'd come back to pick up the SKLD doc.
                                Catatan Sipil is also quite far for us and I'd rather avoid an extra trip because of a missing document ! Hence my numerous questions ! Thank you so much for your advice !

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