KITAS sponsored by the Indonesian spouse

[martin]

Thanks Antantis & MArcus u guys saved me from a big problem , i did applied same day for Surat keterengan , and got my NPWP done.

[Tang15]

Dear Atlantis,

Please kindly share with me your advices to Alsee's above inquired as I am having some questions .

Thank you for kind help in advance.

[Tang15]

Alsee want to be a permanent resident in Indonesia

[FONT=Calibri]Dear Atlantis,[/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri]I am a Malaysian who married an Indonesian girl. We have registered our marriage at Catatan Sipil.[/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri]I had been staying in Indonesia for the last 19 years holding Kitas working permit and I intend to be a permanent resident in Indonesia.[/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri]My questions are as follows :[/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri]1) I am no longer working in Indonesia now. How can I stay and work in Indonesia with my wife?[/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri]As I understood from your forum, I may enter Indonesia with SosBud visa, and transform into KITAP subsequently after staying for 2 continuous years, BUT not allow to work during the two year period.[/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri]2) Does my long stay of 19 years help my application for KITAP?[/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri]3) Upon obtaining KITAP, am I allow to work? Earn some income from Indonesia?[/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri]4) If i stay with visa sosbud, and when i got a job in Indonesia, do i at the same time also apply for KITAS with my new company as my sponsor? And what is the status of my sosbud?[/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri]5) Would it disrupt the requirement for me to apply KITAP if I enter and stay in Indonesia with SosBud and Kitas at the same time?[/FONT]
Thank you and looking forward to your advice.

[marcus]

1) To work in Indonesia you must have a work permit . By having an Indonesian wife do not give you any advantage in this subject .
The advantage of an Indonesian wife is to get a KITAS sponsored by her , but you cannot work

2) I don't know but probably not .

3) You must get a work permit first

4) Normally your boss will take care of the necessary documents (work permit , KITAS , ..) . At one time you will have sosbud or KITAS . Sosbud will become invalid when you get the KITAS or vice versa .

5) For KITAP you need > 2 years of continuous KITAS .

[civetmouse]

My husband has a KITAS sponsored by a tour and travel somewhere in Jakarta arranged by our friend in Imigrasi in Surabaya. next year we will try for the first time , me as a wife become his only sponsor. I am being helped alots for the moment from your abroad knowlegde of 'Keimigrasian affairs' in Indonesia, thanks for your big effort to share with a lots of us. Two thumbs up for you!!!

[ohmdafyd]

My husband has a KITAS sponsored by a tour and travel somewhere in Jakarta arranged by our friend in Imigrasi in Surabaya. next year we will try for the first time , me as a wife become his only sponsor. I am being helped alots for the moment from your abroad knowlegde of 'Keimigrasian affairs' in Indonesia, thanks for your big effort to share with a lots of us. Two thumbs up for you!!!

Just one comment, I was once told by a very credible source that there are no 'friends' in Immigrasi, full stop!

My wife has two 'friends' who work at Immigrasi, husband and wife who are ex neighbours of hers and have known her for years. They are both totally corrupt and it was of course a 'friendship' based on uang rokok until we wised up and put a stop to it, guess what, they are no longer 'friends'...

We also have a family member who works for a travel agency and spends all of his time every day at the same kantor Immigrasi, and is also a local RT, same thing, no uang rokok, no help.

Hati hati mbak.

[civetmouse]

Thanks for your warning Ohmdafyd, we knew verywell that 'our friend' can againts us in the future soon that we are not longer playing Bank for them, we just try to pay his service and avoid any intimate contact with him or others people that pops up soon when they know that I am married with foreigner, sometimes I feel a stranger in my own country..hik..hik...

[civetmouse]

The first time after we arrived in Indonesia and dealed with these officers we refused to pay for ' uang rokok' for the ideology and as result we were being ignored for days, that push us to shallow our pride and digging deep in our pocket to have friendly service and .....it worked

[ohmdafyd]

The first time after we arrived in Indonesia and dealed with these officers we refused to pay for ' uang rokok' for the ideology and as result we were being ignored for days, that push us to shallow our pride and digging deep in our pocket to have friendly service and .....it worked

Of course it worked,it's standard procedure for them to go slow and intimidate you at the same time to extract uang rokok as you don't know the process yet, official fees or the Immigration Laws, but they cannot refuse to process your KITAS providing you follow the process and your husband abides strictly wth the terms of his Visa, no work!

It's not so difficult to process it all by yourself, around 800,000R or therabouts all up and yes it means a few extra visits to the office but so what, you are helping your Country in a small but important way to end corruption.
After a while when they understand you will not pay any bribes they will begin to relax and even lighten up somewhat so don't be concerned with non friendly service, just follow the process, you can do it and the forum has all the info you will need to suppotr you guys.

Salam

[civetmouse]

Thanks again for the information , next year I will try again and I expect that we have to be ready to play a dog at Imigrasi office ( I mean ' waiting with eyes focus at the hole of the loket') just minus barking !!!!

[ohmdafyd]

Thanks again for the information , next year I will try again and I expect that we have to be ready to play a dog at Imigrasi office ( I mean ' waiting with eyes focus at the hole of the loket') just minus barking !!!!

ha ha ha ...sama sama mbak, just read up all of the information that you need in the main sister site, and ask any questions you have here in the forum.

[n4t4c4]

Hello,

I'm new in this forum but I've been reading it for a few months. Thanks so much for the information!

I am Indonesian who used to live in Canada until 2 weeks ago (came back to Jakarta). I still maintain my KTP Jakarta, though, so it's not a problem. My husband, a Canadian, obtained a multiple entry sos bud visa (Index 212) which is valid for 1 year with a maximum of 60 days per stay. He is already in Indonesia for 2 weeks.

This morning, we went to Kanim Jak Sel, which moved to TB Simatupang No. 10, and was told that this kind of visa is not convertible to a KITAS. And the lady also said that the one that IS convertible is the Index 211 type. At this point, the only solution she offered was for us to apply for a VITAS for which my husband will have to go abroad to pick up.

Does anyone in this forum have a similar experience? Is it true that the multiple entry sos bud can not be converted to a KITAS? Do we have any other option than getting a VITAS?

Thank you so much in advance!

[marcus]

I am not sure but I think it should be possible to convert the multiple journey sosbud to KITAS , because the process is to convert a visit permit to ITAS ( "Alih Status Izin Kunjungan menjadi Izin Tinggal Terbatas") . In other Atlantis post (post no. 131 at http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...usband./page14) he wrote that even a tourist visa could be converted to KITAS ( sosbud , tourist and business visas are all "Izin Kunjungan") . As our specialist , Atlantis , is busy now , I would ask at the higher level immigration office (Jl. Rasuna Said , Kav 8-9 , Jkt Selatan) .
Even people with sosbud 211 (single journey) had complained that immigration sometimes didn't want to convert it to KITAS .
As far as I know , you can either convert a sosbud to KITAS (like I did with a sosbud 211) , or get a VITAS which you still need , within few days after arriving in Indonesia , continue the process at the immigration until you get the KITAS .

[n4t4c4]

Thanks for the response, Marcus. I thought so too, but since I didn't know the proper rules, I decided to go home and do more research first. I will check the DitJen Imigrasi tomorrow when they open. Do you think going to a different KanIm would give me a different result?

Does anyone here have a copy of the official rules that I can get a hold of?

Thank you!

[n4t4c4]

So I got a hold of PP No. 32 and it says:

Pasal 47
Izin Keimigrasian yang dapat dialihkan statusnya adalah :
1. Izin Kunjungan menjadi Izin Tinggal Terbatas; dan
2. Izin Tinggal Terbatas menjadi Izin Tinggal Tetap, kecuali orang asing sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 53.

So from my understanding, any Izin Kunjungan can be converted to ITAS. However, it also says that it is further regulated by a Keputusan Menteri Kehakiman and I was not able to find this Keputusan regarding this matter. Does anyone know what year and number this Keputusan is? Thanks so much!