KITAS sponsored by the Indonesian spouse

[Alexandre adolphe]

Hi all,
I'm French, I'm 21 years old, I went to Indonesia a few weeks ago and I really fell in love with the country, I want to live there (maybe forever). I am just a self-taught student, so I don't have a lot of money, I have a part time job now, so I think I can live maybe 1 year or 2 in Indonesia without working.

The fact is that I met a wonderful girl and we are getting married but I don't know when, it was not planned to do it too soon, but if we have no choice, we will do it soon, it might be simpler perhaps to have a kitas or something else.
So, I would like you to explain to me, if you have the time, the best way , the fastest way to live there without spending too much money for the visa every years and without having to come back to France .
I heard about sosbud, kitas, kitap, etc., for the moment I am a student so I do not really need permission to work. So I dont know what permission i need exactly..
I think that u said its possible to start with a sosbud and to ask for a kitas directly after, but I also heard that I must have 1500euro / month for the last 3 months on my bank account to have the sosbud, is it true?

thank you in advance for your help , i'm really lost

[Rajtikka]

Well, hello Alex. Since you already have fallen for indonesia ( isn't it obvious) I'm going to give you a simple answer for your complicated situation
1. You have to come here with SOSBUD, sponsored by your future wife ( you should ask the RI embassy in your country about the bank statement), so later you can convert it to ITAS; if you don't want to go back to your country. P.S - documents needed for sosbud and conversion to ITAS are easily acquired .
2. About working, you can check this links. This may help you. http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...esian-and-work
3. You can also check my posts, I had the same situation before coming here and from the forum I got enough help. http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...63081-rajtikka

[Alexandre adolphe]

Hey Rajtikka, thanks for your quick answer
I'll check the links , but when you say "ITAS", is it the same than "KITAS" ?
Because I never seen "itas" on french website

[Alexandre adolphe]

And one more thing,
can my girlfriend (who is not yet my wife) be my sponsor for SOSBUD? because on some sites I saw that the sponsor must be a company, agency, school, etc..

[Davita]

Hey Rajtikka, thanks for your quick answer
I'll check the links , but when you say "ITAS", is it the same than "KITAS" ?
Because I never seen "itas" on french website

The K in KITAS means the Card (K) that is issued in addition to the ITAS stamp in your passport. Currently it is a downloaded from an email you will be sent. You need to cut it out and best put into a plastic wallet and carried with you.

[Davita]

And one more thing,
can my girlfriend (who is not yet my wife) be my sponsor for SOSBUD? because on some sites I saw that the sponsor must be a company, agency, school, etc..

Any Indonesian citizen can sponsor for a Sosbud. A recent bank statement may be needed to satisfy the financial requirement to be a sponsor.

[marcus]

(1) ... the best way , the fastest way to live there without spending too much money for the visa every years and without having to come back to France ... its possible to start with a sosbud and to ask for a kitas ...

(2) I must have 1500euro / month for the last 3 months on my bank account to have the sosbud, is it true?

(3) ... you say "ITAS", is it the same than "KITAS" ?

(4) can my girlfriend (who is not yet my wife) be my sponsor for SOSBUD? ...
(4.a) I saw that the sponsor must be a company, agency, school, etc..

(1) (Single entry) Social Cultural Visit Visa (Sosbud Visa) and later KITAS sponsored by Indonesian spouse is the best option for people who decided to marry . But I would suggest you to , if marry , wait some years before having children (there are some very sad cases of divorce with children in this Forum) .

If you decide not to marry soon , an one year Student KITAS (sponsored by a language school , for example) , or an up to 180 days (single entry) Sosbud Visa .


(2) The Regulation states a proof of having USD1500 for most Indonesian Visas . I am not aware of this "last 3 months" subject (is this in the Embassy website ?) .

(3) See Davita's post above .

(4) See Davita's post above .
Note : If the intention is to marry and get a KITAS sponsored by the spouse , the Sosbud Visa has to be sponsored by the future spouse (same person sponsoring both) .

(4.a) In reality there is no Sosbud Visa , but instead a Visit Visa with the Social and Cultural purposes . This Visit Visa can be also sponsored by a school for example . When it is a Visit Visa for business purposes (sponsored by an Indonesian based company) , we call it a Business Visa (although it is not an official name) .


http://www.expat.or.id/info/docs.html (Indonesian visas/documents)

[Rajtikka]

Well, since they have explained those things I guess I don't have to repeat it. Let us know if you still have any queries.

[Alexandre adolphe]

Oh I see thank you all !!

But
- if I get married only in 5 years for example, and I take a sosbud, what are the conditions to get a kitas?

- And if I get a student kitas directly instead of my sosbud, if I want to renew it how much should I pay approximately?
-and the student kitas is it renewable in basic kitas if I'm only one year in school?

[marcus]

a- if I get married only in 5 years for example, and I take a sosbud, what are the conditions to get a kitas?

b- And if I get a student kitas directly instead of my sosbud, if I want to renew it how much should I pay approximately?

c-and the student kitas is it renewable in basic kitas if I'm only one year in school?

a- Well , considering that you would live 1 or 2 years in Indonesia , you could stay only with Sosbud Visas (having to get a new one every 180 days in a nearby country , Singapore for example) .
Getting a KITAS from a Sosbud Visa (no need to leave Indonesia) is only possible if you are eligible and the sponsor for both Sosbud and KITAS is the same (example : the Indonesian you will marry before requesting the KITAS , or the Indonesian school where you will study , or ...)

b- If you do the bureaucracy by yourself , the first 1 year Student KITAS will cost USD105 + Rp2'055'000 . An agent will charging you starting from around Rp4 million (you still need to pay USD105 to the Embassy or pay another agent to do the Visa too which will add some USD80) . The prices for the following KITAS are the same except that you don't pay the USD105 anymore . You extend a KITAS without leaving Indonesia .

c- No , because it is sponsored by the school .

Note : Sosbud and KITAS require an Indonesian based sponsor (theoretically responsible for you financially) .


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Below are the people eligible for a KITAS :
a. investor;
b. Work expert;
c. carry out clergy duties;
d. participate in education and training;
e. conduct scientific research;
f. join the husband or wife holding the Limited Stay Permit/KITAS;
g. join the Indonesian father and/or mother
h. join father and/or mother holding the Limited Stay Permit/KITAS , if under 18 (eighteen) years and unmarried;
i. Ex-Indonesian citizen; and
j. Foreigner over 55 years old.

[Peter Wong]

Hi everyone,

I am retired and going to apply for my SOSBUD visa sponsored by my Indonesian wife in a few days time in KJRI in Kota Kinabalu,Sabah,Malaysia.
Does anyone know or is kind enough to direct me to a link on how to type out the sponsorship letter?
I have been googling online. Some sites says I need a signature of the Pak RT with a Rp6000 meterai and some says I dont.
Some says I need a copy of my wife's bank statement and some says I dont.
I tried to call the KJRI mentioned but they are just not answering.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[marcus]

(I) ... Does anyone know or is kind enough to direct me to a link on how to type out the sponsorship letter? ...

(II) Some sites says I need a signature of the Pak RT with a Rp6000 meterai and some says I dont.

(III) Some says I need a copy of my wife's bank statement and some says I dont ...

(I) http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...=5217#post5217 (post no.4 , sample of sponsor's letter for a Sosbud)

(II) Usually people have been adding the Rp$6000 stamp , but not the RT signature (the only place known to require RT signature is France) .

(III) Recently the Regulation Permen no.24 Tahun 2016 introduced a proof of financial capability (of USD1'500 minimum) requirement for all Indonesian Visas , except for the Visa-on-arrival . I think it can be your own bank account statement or your sponsor's .

[Peter Wong]

(I) http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...=5217#post5217 (post no.4 , sample of sponsor's letter for a Sosbud)

(II) Usually people have been adding the Rp$6000 stamp , but not the RT signature (the only place known to require RT signature is France) .

(III) Recently the Regulation Permen no.24 Tahun 2016 introduced a proof of financial capability (of USD1'500 minimum) requirement for all Indonesian Visas , except for the Visa-on-arrival . I think it can be your own bank account statement or your sponsor's .

Thank you very much,marcus.

By the way,my wife’’s place is Tulungagung,Jatim. Anyone from around that area?

[marcus]

... ,my wife’’s place is Tulungagung,Jatim. Anyone from around that area?

I don't know anyone from there .

[Peter Wong]

I don't know anyone from there .

I see. No problem.