KITAS sponsored by the Indonesian spouse

[marcus]

If you have all the required documents ready and Immigration don't delay their visit to your house , VITAS to KITAS : 3 weeks , Visit Visa to KITAS : 4 weeks . In Indonesia you need to be patient , but don't need to worry , for sure you get your KITAS .

By the way , if you married abroad , you need to "register" the marriage certificate in an Indonesian Embassy where you married , before registering it in Indonesia .

[harryopal]

Thank you Marcus.
Yes, we have already registered with the embassy in Canberra.
And as for impatience with the Indonesian system.... every immigration department seems designed to frustrate. Having applied for permanent residence for my wife in Australia we waited for the two year period which was then followed by a final batch of questions and documents at the end of June. All that was asked for has been supplied and nearly 8 months on we are still waiting for the decision.
Yours tropically, Harry
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[brodee]

Yesterday I talked to Mirhaj at Dit Jen. I told him your situation and he told me you can contact him through this email: alihstatus@hotmail.com. He assured emails to this address will not go unanswered, so that's a starting point you can use. They seem pretty professional there so probably worth a try. Good luck.

unfortunately emails not answered..I will keep trying to get kitas at imigrasi but if they still refuse does anyone know how difficult it is to get a VITAS in Darwin/Australia,I have heard they want proof of a $600 a week income in Indonesia. I find this stipulation absurd and totally out of the question that anyone in Indonesia earns that much (apart from professionals)..I will be in Darwin in the middle of the year and it would be more convenient than flying to Singapore...I can get a pre-approval from Jakarta through an agent first via email

[john madden]

brodee - is it possible for you to visit KanWil in Surabaya? The train trip ain't too bad and KanWil is (or used to be) convenient to the station and some OK hotels. You could "check" with them that Jember's assertion that they don't do KITAS is true and perhaps arm yourself with something from KanWil to press the issue.

[brodee]

brodee - is it possible for you to visit KanWil in Surabaya? The train trip ain't too bad and KanWil is (or used to be) convenient to the station and some OK hotels. You could "check" with them that Jember's assertion that they don't do KITAS is true and perhaps arm yourself with something from KanWil to press the issue.

it's a possibility,I've been there before and it is not to bad..depends how long they would take to do anything as I have to be back in darwin in early May..imigrasi might decide to make a long process getting Kitas if they agree

[marcus]

...imigrasi might decide to make a long process getting Kitas if they agree

After Kantor Imigrasi accepts your request (giving you the receipt "Tanda Terima Permohonan") , any delay is their responsibility .

[sanjangr]

I just have a simple question. In the application procedure , it states following in the first step.

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]1[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]. The foreign husband get a Visa Kunjungan SosBud abroad, and get an Izin Kunjungan delivered for a first leg of 60 days at the port of entrance.
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I already have a SosBud visa which permits stays of up to 60 days. Which I have been using all this time. and I am quite confused about how to get this Izin Kunjungan delivered at the port of entrance? Do I need to tell the immigration officer in Jakarta Airport to give me a "Izin Kunjungan" ? Kindly help to clarify.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[kris10dee]

I am going to answer two ways, because it depends on what you mean by "perliminary sponsorship visa".

If you get a VITAS, it basically means that you are already approved for KITAS. All the work has been done abroad. You just have to go to Immigration within a week or so of arrival for the formality to convert it. This is typically done by expats sponsored to work in Indonesia, although it may be possible to do for spousal sponsored as well. I have never done it this way.

If you get Sosial Budaya, then you have to convert it to KITAS once you are in country. This has to be done at the Immigration Office (Kantor Imigrasi - KanIm) that has jurisdiction over the area where your sponsor's KTP is located. So if your wife has a KTP from Bali, then that is where you will get this done. If your wife has a Menado KTP, then you will have to do it in Menado. Trip to Jakarta is not necessary.

Can any of the forum experts confirm if—after entering Indonesia with my VITAS—in order to convert to KITAS, do I need to go to the Kantor Imigrasi where my Indonesian spouse's KTP is registered? We live in Bali, but my husband is from Medan. There's no way he is moving his KTP and our KK to Bali (nightmare!) but has a KPAM for Bali residence...so do I need to go to Medan to make the conversion? Also—has anyone heard about the possibility of KITAS visas being made available online starting in February 2016 (no need to go to immigration)? Thanks!

[jstar]

Can any of the forum experts confirm if—after entering Indonesia with my VITAS—in order to convert to KITAS, do I need to go to the Kantor Imigrasi where my Indonesian spouse's KTP is registered? We live in Bali, but my husband is from Medan. There's no way he is moving his KTP and our KK to Bali (nightmare!) but has a KPAM for Bali residence...so do I need to go to Medan to make the conversion? Also—has anyone heard about the possibility of KITAS visas being made available online starting in February 2016 (no need to go to immigration)? Thanks!

A couple of people on this forum in a similar situation (having a KIPEM or KIPS, a temporary ID) on Bali, have confirmed that Imigrasi on Bali processed the KITAS. So that would be good news.

I wouldn't place my bets on an online system here. There have been multiple attemps but I don't know of anybody successfully using it. All problems.

[jstar]

I just have a simple question. In the application procedure , it states following in the first step.

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]1[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]. The foreign husband get a Visa Kunjungan SosBud abroad, and get an Izin Kunjungan delivered for a first leg of 60 days at the port of entrance.
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I already have a SosBud visa which permits stays of up to 60 days. Which I have been using all this time. and I am quite confused about how to get this Izin Kunjungan delivered at the port of entrance? Do I need to tell the immigration officer in Jakarta Airport to give me a "Izin Kunjungan" ? Kindly help to clarify.[/FONT][/COLOR]

No, this is covered; you got the SosBud sticker in your passport at the KBRI (embassy) and the real entry date and duration is stamped in there as well, when entering the country. There is nothing for you to do or say.

[kris10dee]

KITAS sponsor in Bali w/KIPEM?

A couple of people on this forum in a similar situation (having a KIPEM or KIPS, a temporary ID) on Bali, have confirmed that Imigrasi on Bali processed the KITAS. So that would be good news.

I wouldn't place my bets on an online system here. There have been multiple attemps but I don't know of anybody successfully using it. All problems.

That IS good news—although not what we've been told by Medan immigration (who also say ONLY VITAS can be converted to KITAS—not SocBud!)...
Wonder if any of those members are?! Please contact me?!

And understand re: online system...too good to be true perhaps!

[marcus]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]...I am quite confused about how to get this Izin Kunjungan delivered at the port of entrance? Do I need to tell the immigration officer in Jakarta Airport to give me a "Izin Kunjungan" ? ...[/FONT][/COLOR]

No , you don't need to do anything (as Jstar said before) .

In the Indonesian system , one gets a "Visa" in an Indonesian Embassy (except for visas-on-arrival) , and when he/she enters Indonesia , this "Visa" turns into a "Stay/Visit Permit" (automatically when the officer at the airport/seaport stamps your passport) .

For better understand posts in this Forum please be informed that we normally don't make a distinction between visa and stay/visit permit . We normally just name the 2 as being visa (example : we say Social Cultural Visa's extension , when in reality it is a Social Cultural Visit Permit's extension) .

[marcus]

A couple of people on this forum in a similar situation (having a KIPEM or KIPS, a temporary ID) on Bali, have confirmed that Imigrasi on Bali processed the KITAS ...

Even so , I suggest the interested people to confirm with the KITAS designated officer at the specific Bali's Kantor Imigrasi . This because officers change from time to time , and not all officers interpret the rules the same way (see in the link below a poster's problem with a temporary KP) .


http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...404#post206404 (no KITAS with temporary KTP)

[jstar]

Yes. Personally I think it is not even legal, since an UU would take precedent over a provincial regulation. But it does seem they give the same 'weight' to that temporary ID. And then again, it does not really contradict.

Kris, if you search for KIPEM or KIPS in combination with KITAS, you should be able to find these posts about Bali's stance on the matter. I think the forum member 'Birdfamily' was one of those.

http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/showthread.php/32422-KITAS-amp-co-in-BALI?

I don't know who in the forum has done a SosBud conversion in Medan. I guess someone like MrBule was on a working KITAS (which is almost automatically the VITAS route).

[kris10dee]

Even so , I suggest the interested people to confirm with the KITAS designated officer at the specific Bali's Kantor Imigrasi . This because officers change from time to time , and not all officers interpret the rules the same way (see in the link below a poster's problem with a temporary KP) .


http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...404#post206404 (no KITAS with temporary KTP)

Thanks Marcus—I think the last time we checked—KI said we had to move KTP/KK to Bali first—but that may have been an agent that said that—can't remember...but I will check again!