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    Hey everyone. I was hoping i could get some help and advice. I've heard and read about the correct procedure needed to be taken for this but finding it to be a pain in the backside.

    I visited the British Embassy to get the form needed for declaring i wish to be married and was made outside the grounds for an hour while the staff finished eating only to be sent away empty handed and no information given. Not even the security or reception could speak a work of English which i found odd as my Bahasa Indonesia isn't fluent. They did however put a sign on the wall while i was waiting that said it must be done through the consulate as of the 29th of November. (I went on the 22nd) So the following Monday i visited the consulate at 10am and it was closed, Went back at one and still closed. Tuesday same result. Wednesday i finally got the opportunity to speak with someone who told me i must make an appointment via www.clickbook.net first. So refused by the Embassy and Consulate and with nothing even given i proceeded to visit the website to make an appointment, There was no dates available until 1 and a half weeks later. After letting my British pride get the best of me i called the UK and asked why the Consulate and Embassy here we're so f***ed up and didn't help British Citizens, I later made the argument it's lucky i wasn't a tourist and had my passport stolen or i would be in allot of trouble. The lady agreed and was shocked at how things were run here and later said just do what they need you to do.

    So now I'm waiting for the appointment to speak to them about this.

    While waiting a few friends who had been married to locals over the past few years had told me to prepare birth certificate and passport ect (I didn't bring my birth certificate here, is it important?)
    A few locals told me i must also have a Baptism Certificate (What?) or i have to under go a six month course and be baptized again as it is a requirement of Indonesia Law (Whatt??)
    Some said i wouldn't have to undergo the course but must be baptized again.
    Now I'm hearing i must also pay allot of fees (up to 8 million) to declare my marriage to England to make it fully legal?

    I'm so confused with all this mixed information floating around and would really appreciate someone (none muslim wedding as it's different) to give me advice and point me in the right direction. I would really really appreciate it.

    Thank you and sorry for the venting.

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    Bring your passport, and birth certificate and a letter of no impedment down to Bali and get it done within a day, there are companies specialising in mixed marriages here regardless of religion, nationality etc. Get married on the beach just the 2 of you and 2 witnesses and thats it youre legally married. Then to appease the family go through the motions back in JKT with a "blessing ceromony"

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    • #3
      Hi Scooter, Thank you for the reply, That might just work, Where can i get the letter from? What is it exactly?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Illuminasi View Post
        Hi Scooter, Thank you for the reply, That might just work, Where can i get the letter from? What is it exactly?
        the letter of impediment is a letter issued by the British consulate stating that you're not married in the UK and free to legally wed.
        Also contact Bali weddings international - they will be able to guide you through the process.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Illuminasi View Post
          (1) ... had told me to prepare birth certificate and passport ect (I didn't bring my birth certificate here, is it important?)

          (2) A few locals told me i must also have a Baptism Certificate (What?) or i have to under go a six month course and be baptized again as it is a requirement of Indonesia Law (Whatt??)
          Some said i wouldn't have to undergo the course but must be baptized again.

          (3) Now I'm hearing i must also pay allot of fees (up to 8 million) to declare my marriage to England to make it fully legal?

          Thank you and sorry for the venting.

          (1) Sometimes yes , sometimes no .
          I think that the first thing to do is to get the list of the required documents from the specific Catatan Sipil/Church where you intend to marry . If there is a document you don't have , you can ask them if an alternative similar document could be ok , instead .

          (2) I think this issue is related to each church/priest . You may find a "flexible" church/priest .

          (3) Although I am not an UK citizen , I recently read part of the UK Embassy's website and understood that you are not required to declare to them . What may happen is that the Indonesian Immigration sometimes asks for that from foreigners requesting Indonesian temporary/permanent residency permits .


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          • #6
            Allot of things have been taken care of now, I'm just having 1 problem with these churches, some are demanding me to be rebaptized and some are demanding we undergo a 6-12 month course. I'm just in awe of how some churches are run here and what they require. I don't mind doing the course AFTER we're married but we set the date to January and no Christian Church is willing to help us? IT just baffles me.

            Does anyone have any suggestions?

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            • #7
              If you're not catholic, but want to marry one in the catholic church, they would usually require you to take a "marriage preparation" course, which can take anywhere from 2 hours to 6 months, depending on where you take it, and a recommendation letter from a father who taught that course. I managed to find a church in Canada that was offering a pretty short course, got my letter there and brought it to Jakarta to get my church wedding at the cathedral. My "legal" marriage was done in Canada, so I cannot advise on details of doing it here, I'm afraid. Perhaps, you could get the legal marriage done first, then take your time with the course and do the ceremony afterwards?
              Sergei - Your friendly neighborhood IT consultant.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Illuminasi View Post
                I'm just having 1 problem with these churches, some are demanding me to be rebaptized and some are demanding we undergo a 6-12 month course. I'm just in awe of how some churches are run here and what they require. I don't mind doing the course AFTER we're married but we set the date to January and no Christian Church is willing to help us? IT just baffles me. Does anyone have any suggestions?
                Reread my first post - looking a lot more apealing now isnt it ??

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ScooterIndo View Post
                  Bring your passport, and birth certificate and a letter of no impedment down to Bali and get it done within a day, there are companies specialising in mixed marriages here regardless of religion, nationality etc. Get married on the beach just the 2 of you and 2 witnesses and thats it youre legally married. Then to appease the family go through the motions back in JKT with a "blessing ceromony"
                  Bali is part of Indonesia, and in Indonesia a mixed religion marriage is not possible. (in the sense of it having a legal status). Although they do know how to put on a good ceremony.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Berlarutlarut View Post
                    in Indonesia a mixed religion marriage is not possible. (in the sense of it having a legal status).
                    I don't think that's accurate.
                    Sergei - Your friendly neighborhood IT consultant.

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                    • #11
                      I think that what's not legal is for couples of different religions to marry in Indonesia. If a couple with different religions is married abroad and later comes to Indonesia, they are still recognized as legitimately married.

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                      • #12
                        I'm not atlantis, so I can't quote specific law, but I know mixed religion couples that have married legally in Indonesia.

                        Only for couples where the girls is Muslim the man is also required to convert it seems.
                        Sergei - Your friendly neighborhood IT consultant.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Berlarutlarut View Post
                          Bali is part of Indonesia, and in Indonesia a mixed religion marriage is not possible. (in the sense of it having a legal status). Although they do know how to put on a good ceremony.
                          Allow me to ellaborate what i meant was mixed marriages as in indonesian and non indonesian of an religious denomination.

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                          • #14
                            OK, so I did a bit of reading here, and it seems I was mostly wrong. Apparently I confused an exception with the rule: legal inter-faith marriage in Indonesia is indeed possible... but only if the guy is Muslim and the girl is Christian or Jewish. Otherwise, both spouses must be of the same religion to legally marry here.

                            @Illuminasi, it seems that you either have to go with the flow, or get married outside of the country and do only the church ceremony here.
                            Sergei - Your friendly neighborhood IT consultant.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ScooterIndo View Post
                              Allow me to ellaborate what i meant was mixed marriages as in indonesian and non indonesian of an religious denomination.
                              OK, yes agreed

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