Mix legal Marriage between Pakistani and Indonesian

[yardmaster]

Jim , i am Pakistani , i got married in 2008 in indoensia, i was in Saudi Arabia with my wife since then. We have a daughter who is 4 year old now. In Sep 2012 i got a job here and moved in jakarta. I really dont know about the pre - nup and didnt make it before marriage. SO NW WHT SHLD WE DO IF WE WNT TO BUY PROPERTY IN INDO?

This site may help.

http://www.expat.or.id/info/postnuptianagreementsinindonesia.html

[marcus]

(1) ... If i get marry her here in KSA,does it support me to get enter easily in Indonessia?

(2) I am planning to get marry here in KSA so that we have tha marriage certificate after that.

(1) Theoretically , no . But in practice , it may help .

Unfortunately , being from Pakistan you need to get a "telex Visa" (also called "calling Visa") before you get an Indonesian Visa stamped in your passport . This 'telex Visa" is a kind of "pre-approval" from the Jakarta's "Direktorat Jenderal Imigrasi" , the Immigration big boss . See below how hard it was for [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Akram , according his post no.4 .[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]

Now it is a little bit easier to get this "telex Visa" : It can be requested through the internet (see references below) , but unfortunately it still requires someone in Jakarta to take a copy of the "telex Visa" , maybe present some original documents , and pay the Rp50'000 fee . If you don't know anybody in Jakarta who can help you , like Akram , you can try to convince the Embassy to issue the Visa without the "telex Visa" .

If you intend to come to Indonesia for a long time , try to get a single entry Social Cultural & Family Visit Visa (single entry Sosbud Visa) sponsored by your Indonesian wife . This Visa can be extended in Indonesia , so you can stay in Indonesia up to 180 days . The single entry Sosbud Visa can also be converted in a one year Temporary Residency Permit (KITAS) .


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(Akram's post no.4 , in the first page of this thread) :
[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][Processing telex visa would need a sponsorship from Indonesia and I have applied four times thru proper channel from Indonesian Consulate in Dubai, UAE and hoping Indonesian Embassy would offer entry visa even I have hired few agent and paid approx thousand of US dollars in Jakarta to be my sponsor and taking care of my visa approval but unluckily every times faced some kinds of unacceptable excuses and problems.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]For my eight months hard struggle (various mails, calls and visits to Indonesian consulate in Dubai) made inspired to head of visa section incharge and finally he granted me visa on behalf of his own responsibility without any approval by Jakarta head office...

[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]I didn’t face any problem for the clearance by two countries Immigration (Malaysia and Singapore) except Indonesia as my indo visa was not showing approved by Directorate General of Immigration of Indonesia and I was held at the airport for the questioning / clarifications ... I got released (allow to be enter in Indonesia) after almost one hrs investigations (required some documents by my sponsor) by the head of Immigration officer (he’s so kind for me) and I was with my destiny [/SIZE][/FONT]...]

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[SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/showthread.php/33066-Online-visit-visa-application (online visa request , how)

http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...796#post256796 (visa request through the internet)

http://www.expat.or.id/info/docs.html (visas/documents)

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(2) Be informed that you will need to register this marriage certificate at the Indonesian Embassy in the country where you married . Later , if you decide to live in Indonesia , you will have to register again in the Indonesian KUA or Kantor Catatan Sipil of the Indonesian city where you will reside .

[Tahir Manzar]

Aslam o Alaikum everybody.
I am Manzar having natinality of Pakistan.
I have also the same matter but bit different is that we both are working here in KSA.
If i get marry her here in KSA,does it support me to get enter easily in Indonessia?
I am planning to get marry here in KSA so that we have tha marriage certificate after that.

[Tahir Manzar]

Bro i have the same matter.
I am Manzar having nationality of Pakistan but i have been working in KSA since 3 Years.
Can u plz give me ur facebook or skype id?
I wanna ask you few questions.

[jim69]

Unfortunately, you as a foreigner cannot own property. As you are now married to an Indonesian lady and the law here states all property is shared 50/50, she also cannot own property.

This is why the pre-nup is so important. There is no legal way that you or your wife can own property in Indonesia. I am sure there are ways, but not for discussion here on this forum.

In theory, you could divorce, do the pre-nup, have it registered and then marry again.

There are many discussions here about this, and it is a difficult situation to be in.

[sjali345]

If you dont want to live in Indonesia then its not a problem, if you do and want to own property a pre - nup is essential. Money will not help. Just search on here, you will find all the information.

Jim , i am Pakistani , i got married in 2008 in indoensia, i was in Saudi Arabia with my wife since then. We have a daughter who is 4 year old now. In Sep 2012 i got a job here and moved in jakarta. I really dont know about the pre - nup and didnt make it before marriage. SO NW WHT SHLD WE DO IF WE WNT TO BUY PROPERTY IN INDO?

[lantern]

I didn't know there was a 14 day tourist visa?

[Akram]

Don't understand...a normal RI Tourist visa is for 60 days but not extendable, although some, especially those residing in Bali, have managed to extend. A Social Budhaya (Sosbud) is normally valid for 60 days and is extendable monthly.... for up to 6 months.

YES, you alright but depend on visa type and who wish to stay longer than as I don't see myself needed more than a month


Thanks for your watchfulness and contribution.

[Davita]

I'm fine Ali brother and hoping all good at your end.

Well, my first visa was tourist visa (14 days / type: 211) & my 2nd visa was Social-Cultural Visa (social Budaya Visa) a single entry – maximum length of stay is 30 days (extension available for 30 days).

Wish you good luck

Don't understand...a normal RI Tourist visa is for 60 days but not extendable, although some, especially those residing in Bali, have managed to extend. A Social Budhaya (Sosbud) is normally valid for 60 days and is extendable monthly.... for up to 6 months.

[ali__]

Thanks a lot Akram Brother for your reply n Good Wishes......

[Akram]

Dear Akram Brother

How r u?

my question is u did marriage on Tourism visa or social Cultural visa? reply me soon Thank You

I'm fine Ali brother and hoping all good at your end.

Well, my first visa was tourist visa (14 days / type: 211) & my 2nd visa was Social-Cultural Visa (social Budaya Visa) a single entry – maximum length of stay is 30 days (extension available for 30 days).

Wish you good luck

[ali__]

Dear Akram Brother

How r u?

my question is u did marriage on Tourism visa or social Cultural visa? reply me soon Thank You

[Akram]

thanks akram..i hv also a case same like this i hv a girl friend from indonesia and want to marry with her...i need ur help plzz send me ur cell no i wana talk with u...i need sm information abt process plzzz help me ......

Salam,

Dear Janshah,

Hoping you are doing fine...well, I suggest to read very carefully all my threads and you will find my contact number (#39)

[janshah]

thanks

Hi,

I m sorry for late replying as very rarely visiting this forum.

Well, nice to knowing that we are not alone and many couples are on the same shoesJ
Yes, we are much closer to our marriage and waiting to get approval for visa as plan for next month (March, 2012).

Papers issue as we have researched and got information’s with many successful couples (mix marriage), NOT so much difficult in order to get marry with Indo girl but only visa part (might only for me).

Document Required For NOC for Marriqage with Indonesian Girl.

1. The bridegroom has to provide for original affidavit from his parents that he is not
previously married that is authorized to marry with an Indonesia girl .the affidavit has to be duty attested by the Ministry of Foreign Affair Islamabad ,in case of second marriage permission from his first wife also needed.

2. The Willingness Certificate from the girl parents that they allow to marry with the Pakistani man.

3. Family registration card or Kartu keluarga of the Indonesian Girl.

4. Identity card of the girl

5. surat keterangan untuk nikah issued by RT,RW,KELURAHAN ,KUA

6. Willingness of the girl that she to marry without force with Pakistani man and will not come to embassy in case of any dispute between them

7. Photocopy of (CNIC), POC and valid Pakistani passport

8. Fee RP.185.000

THIS NEW RULE FOR THOSE PAKISTANI MAN WANT MARRY WITH INDONESIAN GIRL FROM PAKISTAN EMBASSY.


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Me n my lovely Fiancée (Place: Medan, Indonesia)

thanks akram..i hv also a case same like this i hv a girl friend from indonesia and want to marry with her...i need ur help plzz send me ur cell no i wana talk with u...i need sm information abt process plzzz help me ......

[Akram]

Aassalam o alikum 1. The bridegroom has to provide for original affidavit from his parents that he is not previously married that is authorized to marry with an Indonesia girl .the affidavit has to be duty attested by the Ministry of Foreign Affair Islamabad. I need the Specimen of above mention Affidavit thanks

Walaikum Salam
I suggest you to contact any agent / notary public (public officer constituted by law to serve the public in non-contentious matters) and ask about this affidavit letter as normally they are having standard format or PM me on akramahw@gmail.com